Has nobody run into the demoman problem on the last stage of dustbowl? 3 demos there and you lock it right down, backed up by 3 sentrys and a few pyros and heavies and its simply not possible to win. We're hitting these problems because there's 24 slots on the server and the maps simply arent designed for that many players. I think valve were heavily influenced by cs and tfc when designing the game, and specifically the maps, meaning the optimum players for our currentmaps are between 10 and 20 total. Maybe this will change with badlands and the other new map due soon as they see how the community plays the game. Afterall they have to tweak the gameplay based on how the big collective "we" play it.
There's places on all the maps where overflow of a class will lock it down when player numbers are raised high enough. Its down to map design. Until we start seeing huge maps for 24 - 32 players we're going to see this sort of problem. Whenever people discuss it you always get the "oh but you can just do this" element - yes I agree there should always be a way of overcoming any given situation, and on paper there is. In the actual game though when you're on fire, being shot, blowing up and shooting at what you think may have possibly been a spy its a whole different kettle of fish, so lets not get into discussions on how you'd just be able to do it as we all know it will never quite work out that way
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