Hey.
Is it possible to change Melee SD to Same Class Vanilla SD on HH1? I think everybody agrees, that there are certain weapons that break Melee SD. Same Class Vanilla SD would solve this problem, and I don't think it would hurt the ... "fun" factor.
I would also like normal SD without Engies. But that would be less ... "fun", I guess.

There was a vote/discussion on this a while ago and the results were that most people (sadly) like melee sudden death. There's other ways to solve the item problem I think, like blocking the weapons that are imbalanced.

Why not just make it so that when sudden death occurs everyone is forced to go heavy? Restrict weapons to gru if you want .

I'll be corrected if wrong, but I think the mods that do that keep messing up the server so they were taken off.

Heavies are slow and have high health, which means melee SD would take too long. A lot of heavies wear the GRU and they'll be dead after 45 seconds.

There was a GRU only melee SD suggested a while back, but it seems broken to me on a fundamental level... everyone's life is put on a timer of 45 seconds, and the timer is only decreased by getting hurt. If just one guy on Red avoids the enemy for the full 45 seconds he'll live for the longest possible time, and if everyone on Blu takes a punch he'll outlast them and win instantly.

I think everyone should be suddenly killed and considered a loser.

The vote wasnt "no" tbh, it was "no but change they way melee sd works (which tbh nothing happend till now as said there are no mods/plugins I think for that).
So if there was a second vote now I guess the results would be different.

I think you might be right.

I don't know if the type of SD we use really matters much at all... it's only played for a few minutes at the end of 5CP maps, and even then only sometimes, so it doesn't have much effect on the overall server experience imo.

This topic has come up a few times but afaik right now there's not an option avaliable to suit everyone.

Forcing people to play a certain class in a "default" manner is not the way to go, it forces people to play classes they don't like / not very skilled at and gives the team with career classes the advantage, an therefore not always the team with the momentum.

Melee SD gives no team an advantage, should the players be locked to the same class that is. No matter how good you are with a soldier, you can't put your skills down when using the shovel and the same goes for every other class, right now i admit to changing my class on stalemate to something more meaty because playin scout in SD really is no fun at all, but everyone is able to do this which levels it out, just a bit anyway.

"Literal sudden death"