Yes? No? Opinions?

Oh..red .. urm...idk, thought you meant blu.

It's exploiting and is not allowed on our servers. I played a game recently (on a non HH server) and there were 2 hidden tele's going up to the roof of B. Not being able to take out the tele's at C made it extremely difficult to break them down.

So its a big no from me.

I say no to all exploits as well.

Big no here too. Tele put sideways in the door is fine, can still be sapped/destroyed. The raised one totally inside red spawn is off-limits.

Having witnessed a game where 3 |H|H| members were on a team whose engineer used this teleport glitch, I must wonder if people do not care or just simply do not know the teleport in question is glitched.

While not as bad as sentries underground it still breaks the balance of the map.

a long time ago before tf2 was all but broke with bugs etc i would of said something along the lines of well...its in the game valve obviously know about it so its ok, but since tf2 has gone batshit crazy and they stopped doing QA then also say no. I will enforce it may of been me being one of the HH guys letting it happen in the past.

Yeah, I personally don't think it's okay to do that myself. I mentioned how lame it was using this exploit in some other pub server where they had built the tele in spawn and had 3 engies with sentries on the roof on B.

And they were like "NAH IT'S NO EXPLOIT, GRAVELPIT IS AN OLD MAP."

I have a feeling that players want to be rewarded with hats and all that shit just because they would not abuse the bugs... And if you are against it, YOU are the one that cannot have fun, is a retarded jerk that ruins others' game, etc.

Try having fun when you have 3 engies on the roof of B with no way of getting to it or stopping them from getting up there since it's made impossible to destroy the entrance.

Even with ubers, you could only perhaps get 1 sentry, before being airblasted and shot away. Wasn't very fun being an attacker.