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| Author: | Fr3ddi3 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | PC died, hardware suggestions? |
Yo guys, i be writing this from my lappy as my pc has pretty much clocked out for the last time. I have about £1800 / £2000 i'l be willing to spend on a new comp for gaming (i use the lappy for everything else), anyone have any suggestions for me? lastly could i pulg a usb from my lappy to the pc to get some files back? |
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| Author: | Fr3ddi3 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
forgot to say what i was looking at getting, I7 for the processor moby board is up in the air atm GFX cards i have no idea what's what atm either Sound board i'm not overly fussed cause i use headphones all the time Hard drive i'm not sure on, i remember reading it's close to obsolete? Mouse keyboard and monitor are still in working order |
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| Author: | Bolt [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
I think you can get a god-computer that can hammer any game on the market for the next two years at 1080p with that money mate. |
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| Author: | threefuries [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
If you're spending that order of poundage you could go nuts with this and have cash to spare. How comfortable are you with installing liquid cooling? |
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| Author: | bomaster [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
do you prioritize future proofing or bang for buck? |
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| Author: | Fr3ddi3 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
My last appempt at liquid cooling was a failiure but that was a couple of years ago so i guess i'd give it another go. I'd prefer future proof with this comp, i got the money to go all out for once  Was looking at the 5970 after looking through the old threads, anyone using it at the moment? |
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| Author: | Hemsk [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
Being a big fan of Overclockers i would throw this out as a suggestion.. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-152-OE Choose the optional 80gb SSD and the SLI option and you have a machine that looks great and will last years for £1450.. leaving money left over for a few drinks too =) What monitor do you have? I think with any top end machine you would want a 27"+ monitor to do it justice. Something like http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-041-DE&groupid=17&catid=1120&subcat= That would put it overbudget but you could leave out the optional system upgrades and still have an absolutely fantastic setup for < £2k. |
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| Author: | bomaster [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
for 1k i would like to see way better than that rig on ocuk. any rig built off this baby would see you clear of any upgrades for a long long time http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigabyte ... 6Gb-s-RAID 2x 6gb per second sata ports which will let you get the most out of an ssd and a few ssd's in raid. 8x 3gps sata ports for storage 4 pciex16 slots for as many graphics cards you will ever need, as soon as 1 is obsolete, just get another. its also compatible with crossfire and sli. 5gps usb....   the usb ports are also 3x more powerful so you can piggyback a few devices and not worry about powering them and know your still guna get the max speeds out of themand with that a corsair 1kw psu and your good to go. i myself would settle for an i7 230 D0 as your guna pay 2/500 quid more for anything thats noticeably better. not mentioning the fact that the i7 is total overkill for gameing as it is, i dont think this would be obsolete for a long time and when that happens you can just upgrade to the then cheeper 980's of whatever. thats just my opinion tho, you might want to aim higher from the start but personally i would spend my money elsewhere. ok so far we got i7 930 = £218 ud9 = £434 1kw corsair psu = £149 --------------------------- £801 for ram i would go for xms3 1333's http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/8GB%282x ... ector-160V 8gb of solid ram for £136 2x4gb means you can get another 2 of these and fill your 26gb of slots in the future disregard that, i had a retard moment and put in dual channel ram  you want this http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/6GB-%283 ... -9-24-165V 3x2gb tripple channel 16000's -£12 ------ £937 ------ now all you need is a case and gpu. i would budget 200-300 for a good quality case which im sure you can sort yourself as its mostly preference with very little difference between then when your spenfing good money on them. gpu is a tricky one for me as im not 100% up to date but the 5970 looks like the better choice at first glance, around £450 for a 2gb card that destroys any game released seams good to me ----- £1587 ------- now an ssd or 2  120gb ocz vertex 285 read 275 write http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/120GB-OC ... te-275MB-s just pure filth for £189. and again, in the future you can just add another and wack them in raid  this on its own will give you more of a performance boost in day to day use than going for the £800 x980 i7. ultra responsive and boot times of under 20 seconds. also loading time into games will be dramatically slashednote for decent raid you will need something other than the onboard but i assume you wont be doing that strait off the cuff i would use that for my OS and steam folder and use your old HDD's for general storage. ----- £1776 ----- now all you need is cooling and you have £224 quid to spend. thats more than enough for a modest watercooling setup. you already have a waterblock on the mobo so all you need is tubeing, fillport, barbs, pump, rad and cpu waterblock. waterblock = £50 pump =£50 barbs and fillport = £15 tubing =£5 rad =£50 you could get a cheaper one but i recommend getting a good quality 360mm rad so it can handle your gpu if you ever want to WC that ------- £1946 -£12 (ram) -£55 (case) ------- £1879 ------- £121 left over and that would me a fucking monster with plenty of room to upgrade for a long time to come. remember tho this is just my preferance, alot of people here would choose many different parts but its a start for people to comment and give you other examples optional extra's raid controller dell perc5 with battery backup for around £200 reservoir makes for an easyer installation but not 100% necessary. it can be a bitch to bleed all the air out without one if you not done it before. i priced £200 for the case, that will get you a rly sweet one but i totally fell in love with this baby with its perfect build quality, airflow, cable tidying and watercooling compatability. also it looks awesome and had some nice hotswap bays   http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Corsair- ... ns-w-o-PSU holy fuck!! it used to be £300 not its gone down to £146 Sound card - asus xonar d2 (latest revision) - £90 on a 2k pc i would fucking hate onboard sound. you could go for a better card like xonar st for £150 but that would just bearly put you over the 2k budget |
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| Author: | kinetik [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
Ok, here's my two cents; largely agree with bo on the basics, however do note that a: the sata 3 controller will either not perform in raid mode or fry itself when used with ssds, so discount it as a feature. [even gigabyte have an advisory on their site instructing customers to NOT use ssd's in raid on that controller. The intel southbridge is crap at the interesting raid setups too, and takes FOR EVER to rebuild in the event of parity loss [60 hours/TB] The list is thus:  with a budget of £2k this would leave you nearly £150 for a case to stick it all in. With the likes of silverstones raven or corsairs obsidian you'd be set for a pimped machine. If you were erring to the cheaper end I'd swap out the 2TB raid edition disc for 1 or two 1TB model and save £100-£150. The raid edition drives handle drive faults differently, the most noticable is the reduced delay in informing the OS of a failed action, and I expect would have better tolerances and higher MTBF. also by getting the Xonar D2 as opposed to the stx would save you about £50 too without scarificing alot of pant-wetting sound quality. I'm not sure how the DS handles EAX, but my STX can be a bit finnicky about which games it chooses to co-operate with. Some titles didn't produce sound when told to use hardware without a little persuasion, and I think there's a couple of titles that I still haven't sorted [X3:TC springs to mind] EDIT: One thing I haven't included here is an optical drive, however an all singing DVD writer can be had for about £15. |
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| Author: | Hemsk [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC died, hardware suggestions? |
I guess a lot depends on if you want to build it yourself or buy components. Either way, i wouldnt use Scan, they are horrible (from my experience anyway). Personally im a prebuilt system person now. I did the whole build it yourself thing for 15+yrs and prebuilts these days are not that different in price/value - without all the hassle. While i agree with getting a system to last, games hardware requirements arent accelerating that quickly where it will become a problem with any decent setup. You can spend £1k and have a system that will probably still run games @ max in 3-4 years time, at which point youll be looking to upgrade to the next batch of hardware regardless of if youve spent 1 or 2k now.. Just my opinion but i would totally go for a 1kish prebuilt and a top end monitor to enjoy it on, you really cant overstate how much difference a good monitor makes. |
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