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Author:  bfox [ Mon May 24, 2010 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Buy a PS3 or a 360 (facts only!)?

i think as long as the console was made after aug 08 your safe from the red ring. also not so hard to fix just screw on the x-clamp with a sturdy bolt, easy if you have an engineerial brother lol, just dont tell him he can keep it if he fixes it *facepalm*

that could be hyperbole, but its what i heard and my (other one) was made dec 08 and its still going strong :D

Author:  ErAs3R [ Mon May 24, 2010 8:03 pm ]
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I would go for XBOX, even though Microsoft charges anyone for everything If you have the money there is no problem. Also the multiplayer part seems to be better incorporated in the XBOX systems (doesn't matter if XBOX Live needs a monthly fee).

Author:  y2rich [ Mon May 24, 2010 8:04 pm ]
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If you want a console for games then get a 360. If you want a Bluray player that plays the majority of the 360 games but at worse resolutions/framerates then get a PS3.

PSN is a shambles compared to Live and I'd much rather pay the £25 a year for Live I pay than put up with the freebie pile of trash PSN is.

Before you start shouting fanboy I have both consoles (and a Wii!). The only PS3 games I have are the ones not on 360 or US only releases (Uncharted 1+2, MGS4, MLB10 The Show, Heavy Rain) because the online features and image quality are better on 360 for multi platform releases.

Author:  bfox [ Mon May 24, 2010 8:27 pm ]
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why does no-one ever mention Haze :cry:

only prob i've ever had with xbox online, apart from the dodgy matchmaking system, is it can be impossible to find MP games of older games. I have the darkness, blacksite, tiger wood 07, perfect dark zero and i have never beem able to play online with them because of not being able to find any games. maybe after an hour you will find 1 lol.

having said that the only console games i do, and ever really want to play online is worms and peggle and theres no prob with these :D

Author:  Fluffy [ Mon May 24, 2010 8:42 pm ]
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Perfect dark zero is the worst console game I have ever played, not surprising there's no playerbase.

But yeah, fair point, if it's (older) niche-games, such as Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix in my case, it's going to be tough to find players...but I'd assume that's even more so the case on PS3.

And now I'd like to take the opportunity to lol at "facts only!"....hahahahaha...like that's gonna happen.

Author:  bfox [ Mon May 24, 2010 8:50 pm ]
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lol ye if you want straigh up hard-cold facts only ps3 wins hands down :lol:

Author:  ErAs3R [ Mon May 24, 2010 9:25 pm ]
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Posting technical details:

Quote:
XBOX 360:

Media DVD, Compact Disc, Download
Add-on: HD DVD (discontinued)
CPU 3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon
Storage capacity Detachable Hard Drives

* 20 GB
* 60 GB
* 120 GB
* 250 GB

Memory Cards (Removable)

* 64 MB
* 256 MB
* 512 MB

On-board storage chip (later models)

* 256 MB
* 512 MB

USB storage device (requires system software update)

* 1 GB to 16 GB

Memory 512MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700MHz
Display

* Composite video (480i/576i)
* S-Video (480i/576i)
* RGB SCART (480i/576i)
* Component (YPbPr) (up to 1080p)
* VGA (up to 1080p/1920×1080)
* D-Terminal (D5) (up to 1080p)[2]
* HDMI (later models) (up to 1080p)

Graphics 500 MHz ATI Xenos
Sound

* Analog stereo
* Stereo LPCM (TOSLINK and HDMI)
* Dolby Digital 5.1 (TOSLINK and HDMI)
* Dolby Digital with WMA pro (TOSLINK and HDMI)

Controller input 4 maximum* (any combination): Xbox 360 Controller (USB wired, 2.4 GHz wireless), Xbox 360 Wireless Racing Wheel, Rhythm game controllers, Big Button Pads*, Xbox 360 Arcade sticks, Ace Combat 6 Flight Stick.
*4 Big button pads may be used in addition to other controllers.
Connectivity 2.4 GHz wireless, 3 × USB 2.0, IR port, 100 Mbit Ethernet
Add-on: Wifi 802.11a/b/g, Wifi 802.11a/b/g/n[3]
Online services Xbox Live




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PS3:

* Blu-ray Disc (PlayStation 3 game disc)
* DVD
* Compact Disc
* PlayStation game disc
* PlayStation 2 game disc (1st & 2nd generations only)
* Super Audio CD (1st & 2nd generations only)
* Digital distribution

Operating system XrossMediaBar
system software version 3.30[3]
CPU 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine with 1 PPE & 7 SPEs
Storage capacity 2.5" SATA hard drive
(20 GB, 40 GB, 60 GB, 80 GB, 120 GB, 160 GB, or 250 GB included) (upgradeable)
Memory 256 MB system and 256 MB video
Display
Video output formats[show]

* Composite video
480i, 576i (PAL)
* S-Video
480i, 576i (PAL)
* RGB SCART
480i, 576i (PAL)
* Component (YPbPr)
480i, 576i (PAL), 480p, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
* D-Terminal
480i (D1), 480p (D2), 720p (D4), 1080i (D3), 1080p (D5)
* HDMI
480p, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

Graphics 550 MHz NVIDIA/SCEI RSX 'Reality Synthesizer'
Sound
Audio output formats[show]
A/V-Multi

* Analog stereo

TOSLINK

* LPCM
2ch
44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88kHz, 176.4kHz
* Dolby Digital 5.1
* DTS 5.1
* AAC

HDMI

* LPCM
2ch, 5.1ch, 7.1ch
44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz
* DTS-HD Master Audio Bitstream (slim models only)*
* Dolby TrueHD Bitstream (slim models only)*
* Dolby Digital 5.1
* DTS 5.1
* AAC

*All models can decode Dolby TrueHD and as of firmware 2.30 DTS-HD Master Audio, to be output as LPCM. Output of the raw undecoded stream is limited to slim models.[4]
Controller input Sixaxis, DualShock 3, Logitech Driving Force GT, Logitech Cordless Precisionâ„¢ controller, standard USB controllers, GT Force, Rhythm game controllers, PlayStation Move, GunCon 3, PlayStation Portable, Keyboard and Mouse
Connectivity
(details)[show]
Flash memory input

* MemoryStick/PRO/Duo*
* SD/MMC*
* CompactFlash/Microdrive*

Audio/video output

* HDMI 1.3a out
* S/PDIF out (TOSLINK)
* AV Multi out
o Composite video/stereo audio cable**
o S-Video cable
o SCART cable
o Component video cable
o D-Terminal cable

Other

* IEEE 802.11b/g Wi-Fi***
* Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
* 4 × USB 2.0

(2 × in 40 GB and all later models)

* Wired gigabit Ethernet

*60 GB and CECHExx 80 GB models
**Included in box
***All except 20 GB model
Online services PlayStation Network

Author:  Extra_Cold [ Mon May 24, 2010 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Buy a PS3 or a 360 (facts only!)?

bfox wrote:
i think as long as the console was made after aug 08 your safe from the red ring. also not so hard to fix just screw on the x-clamp with a sturdy bolt, easy if you have an engineerial brother lol, just dont tell him he can keep it if he fixes it *facepalm*

that could be hyperbole, but its what i heard and my (other one) was made dec 08 and its still going strong :D


This is true

In aug-sept 07 they put a new chipset into all xboxes producted from then on (called "falcon" iirc), which uses a different connection system and is apparently less likely to RROD (if it does, which most likely wont, it would be a seperate problem to what previously causes it e.g. dropping the xbox), my late oct 07 one (which i've confirmed to have the new chipset) is still going strong.

The falcon chipset is also interestingly the same one they put in elites, thats right, aside from the paint job and the HDD the xbox regulars and elites are the same.

Author:  bfox [ Mon May 24, 2010 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Buy a PS3 or a 360 (facts only!)?

ah 07 not 08, i thought that but it seemed too long ago, man how time flies :(

i'd guess you'd struggle to pick one that old up anyway

Author:  Extra_Cold [ Mon May 24, 2010 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Buy a PS3 or a 360 (facts only!)?

bfox wrote:
ah 07 not 08, i thought that but it seemed too long ago, man how time flies :(

i'd guess you'd struggle to pick one that old up anyway


Hehe, i think they put a newer chip in early 09 called "jasper" which apparently shrinks the GFX core and has 512mb internal memory (not ram)

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