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[HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0
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Author:  crakIShadow [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:54 am ]
Post subject:  [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

Well it is finally upon us. The crakI will return from the holy land (china) around September 13th. I had planned to post about this earlier, but I have been busy and there were some issues to sort out.

For those of you who dont know what im on about, please look at the below threads for more info on the last nations cup.

http://www.thehh.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2985

http://www.thehh.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3026

http://www.thehh.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2948

And theres plenty of other topics around the place for you to get the idea of how the whole thing works. There are a few things that will change with the running of this tournament which I will detail below. I will not be changing the format of the tournament as people enjoyed the last one and I cannot find a good way of making it a fair tournament if we allow people to submit their own teams.

One thing that cropped up on the last tournament is the sheer number of topics and the issues with finding the right topic. This will change in this tournament I will be updated threads rather then creating new ones so please review topics often for updates. I have been told by leadership that if a number of people request a sub forum to make life easier then it will be done. So dont stay in the backround, if you want it, ask for it.

The team size will change in this tournament from 4 to 5 which will hopefully get rid of the need for the amount of ringers that we used in the last tournament. Obviously this depends on numbers and some teams will have to live with only 4 members if that is the case. We will discuss more on this rule when I know the numbers for the tournament.

The scoring system will change. It will now go on wins/losses similiar to a football tournament. We will then go to scores if there is a tie. Also the group sizes may change but this also depends on how many people sign up.

Another thing that will change is that maps will be universal. Teams tended to play on one map all the time or request one map so it made it unfair on the people who wanted to play another. We will hold a vote on what are the popular arena maps and then use them for each round.

Other then all the above I believe things will stay the same as they were for the first. The ruleset will be the same (this is to stop me having to post another topic. The link is above and I have edited the topic). I will probably post more on this when I think about it but for now Ill leave you be, any questions/suggestions contact me, and sign up!!!

Author:  Agent 47 [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

The problem with 5 though is that every week the team leader has to tell someone to sit out, and I can believe it can upset the player.

Maybe make the 5th player a designated ringer that plays when needed? Just a suggestion.

Author:  Swampthing [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

Or make it so there are an equal number of games so everyone gets to play in turn! Will be a few days after my birthday too, so everyone has to let me win!

And if you need a hand sorting things out or just making sure it runs smoothly give me a pm, ill be happy to help!

Author:  banksie [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

Well I'll be damned. Just figured I'd check in on you guys as I haven't been around much since part 1. I wonder if I should organize some TF2 time again :D

Finland FTW!

Author:  Geelottaja [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

banksie wrote:
Well I'll be damned. Just figured I'd check in on you guys as I haven't been around much since part 1. I wonder if I should organize some TF2 time again :D

Finland FTW!

It's alive! Good to see you again mate, haven't seen but a glimpse of you since the last Nations Tournament!

Author:  bomaster [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

the 5 man team thing this a shit idea. but you could have a designated ringer from another team.

Author:  Agent 47 [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

lol banksie! You're timing couldn't have been better. Saw you online the other day and thought of asking if you were available for this once again. :P

Author:  bomaster [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

i also think there should be some sort of punishment in order for people that don't show up a few times, maybe revoked reg status and such. as last time neg had a load of problems with team surrey not showing for a single match and other people not showing for any matches leaving the team to recruit a ringer every time.

and we have alot of new regs playing this time i think that revoking status after missing 2/3 matches would work quite well as a deterrent

Author:  Kiss Kiss [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

bomaster wrote:
i also think there should be some sort of punishment in order for people that don't show up a few times, maybe revoked reg status and such. as last time neg had a load of problems with team surrey not showing for a single match and other people not showing for any matches leaving the team to recruit a ringer every time.

and we have alot of new regs playing this time i think that revoking status after missing 2/3 matches would work quite well as a deterrent

Scythe's PC blew up, my internet was terrible for the first match and I couldn't play the second match because I didn't have any internet. After that Real Life conspired against me. So we ended up getting Gimpy to play in every match in place of Scythe, and then when I couldn't play either we got penalised in points.

Sooooo you think de-regging Sycthe will stop his PC blowing up, or stop my internet from failing or real life from being the bitch it is sometimes? You're right, it will work very well as a deterrent, it will absolute make people think twice about even signing up for a casual tournament where they risk losing their reg status. I'm sorry for the inconvenience I caused Neg, Craki, Gimpy and ofc the teams that had to wait for us to get it together, but is it really necessary to punish?

Regardless, I won't be signing up this time around.

Author:  Kbramman [ Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [HH Nations Cup] - Part 2! :-0

Sorry Bo, but I agree. Saying we are going to take away the @H|H tags becaused something came up is way to harsh and a bit pointless.

People sign up because they want to show their support for the HH, doing this could drive people away - straight to servers who have similar systems in place like OC or Box.


On the 5 players, yes it means you may have to stop someone from playing, but at the same time it means you'll have a backup if someone doesn't show...
Personally think the 5th player is a good idea.

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