Arena_grid_walls:

So let's talk about GridWalls!
Here a few stuff that only players could now about arena_grid_walls:

Problems:

Here one of the Top played map... Why is it like that?
Cause it's an unballanced MAP!
80% of the time, the Hale is figuratively fucked along without actually possibilities to win!

-Jumping is nearly useless in this map.

-This map allow player to be safe untils doors are opened/closed.

-If players manage to pack themselfves with sentry, the boss will be knockback as hell,
players even prepare crits by taunt before doors open!


-Also, If the hale is not a ubbercharge raged, he's fucked if he's stuck with medic/heavies ubercharged:


-Here a hale blocked against a wall with crits,

most of the time, the doors closing before the hale could do anything!

-Also, there is a lot of Hales getting killed by doors too.
Sometime, TP Hales get killed just because of random TP on a player passing a door...
Same for Bug Charging hales with the step in the middle blocking them on door step!
It would be better if they were spawned instead of crused, but it's not here!

-If the HHH spawned... prepare to die,
he'll maybe TP on you passing through walls,
there is no way to escape if you see it the door opening!

My point of view is that map is too unfair to hales,
with all these issues, the map should be removed (or fixed)!
Hales often have 50% of the time 2 min rounds,
getting crushed, or raged in a corner...
Noob hales players are just fucked... not really enjoyable!


Tips:

-Autowin Seeman:
Get youselves hit to get enough rage, and rage next to the central door,
even closed, you'll get 80% of the team killed safely in one rage (even more)!

-Daleck Caan:
Can shoot through walls... really usefull and cheap ^^!

-Ubercharge raging boss (AppelJack, Mario...):
These boss have it easy, a rage will waste the medics ubbercharges
and allow you to destroy easily sentry and kill traped players!

-If you're ubered, you can block open the doors until it worn of.
It can help you team to still fire at the boss without the wall protection!
Beware to get out before that, and don't forget there is a step to go to the middle,
don't get blocked because of it!
(in fact sould it be possible? Trains already kill ubered medics...)

-Top damagers, take medic or Heavy, Engies are vulnerable if there is no helping pyro or medics!
Really easy to get over 4K... even more if boss got stuck in ubercharged one (TP or Slomo Bosses),
or against a wall in a corner (10K in one ubercharge), even weightdown is useless if a uber heavy is under!


If you have anything to add, tips, complain, point of view...
Just do it after!

Watch your language.

Edited:



That's the idea!

The reason why they choose this and begs other to do so:

- This map is easy to win as, gives fast rounds, damage, score and people who likes easy challenges. They don't care how tough it will be for hale. (most players who don't like playing as boss wants that, thats about half of the server.
- Because uber chain is fun.
- This map is small and contains fast action.

With these issues, i suggest for removal.
I know other likes it and it's fun but it needs to be enjoyable for both hale and red players.

Locked. You can post this thread again once you learn some manners.

Llamara, the HH promotes a mature attitude and mutual respect. There are constant reminders of this in chat on the FF2 server.

FF2 attracts a younger demographic of players. Young people are more impressionable. Rape is a strong word that shouldn't be used lightly.

Have a read of this thread and SgtHardPlace's post in particular. http://www.thehh.co.uk/forum/viewtopic. ... 69#p151869

If you are able to acknowledge and respect this point of view, then this thread will be cleaned up.

I hope you are able to respond without any drama.

However, I did suggest that you made a single mega-maps thread.

I had use "Rape" because it's strong!
Sorry if that look like abusive, but the feeling about GridWall is this one.
I don't see the point of your stuff about Sexual harassment...
Here i don't even point someone, it's even me i'm talking about.

Getting cornered, being helpless/powerless, no escape nor solution... even ganged up!
That nearly the definition of "being raped" (without the sexual meaning here)!
That's why i used this word.
This feeling is the much more closed one,
but when you don't play, you cannot know nor see it!

I have edit, and deleted the second post about it!
Sorry if i shocked some people by this word use,
but this map is shocking!
This Map IS sexual Harrassment for hales if we point it like that.

Sorry again!

Dude no. No. You shouldn't use the word 'rape' anywhere. No matter the context, rape is horrible and it has no place in a simple forum post.

The map is not sexual harassment. You don't like it, that's fine. You've provided your points as why you don't like it; good! But using words like 'rape' completely breaks your post down again. In the future, refrain yourself from bad language that might trigger people.

That's what we want. Thanks.



Just because we don't ban everything that is bad and ugly, doesn't mean we shouldn't ban something exceedingly horrible. Logic like that doesn't work. It's like saying that someone who spends all their spare time helping orphan children is still a horrible person, because they eat meat and don't sort out their trash.

We asked you to not use that word, because it is not welcome here. Providing further reasoning shouldn't be necessary. Please respect our wishes.

I think we're done discussing about this. As you said: Back on topic.