Sorry for trying to do something different compared to other servers. Sorry for not knowing how to make regenerative shields back in the day. Sorry for being tired of seeing and using the same Demoknight loadout over and over again. People can adjust, but apparently that is too much to ask for. If it's adjusting in an unfair way, then I can understand it. But I haven't seen anyone here giving a reasonable explanation as to why these weapon changes are unfair. Have you tested them properly? I'm aware of the Shiv's major influence and even I agreed that it was too much.

How long were those weapon changes there? 3-4 months? Seems like a reasonable amount of time to give some feedback on it, even if the server wasn't always populated. How long are these weapon changes here? 5 days. And everyone is already pissed at me because they don't like changes to weapons they never use.

You still can run the Shotgun instead of the Flare because the it's poor to attack directly against the boss compared to the Shotgun and especially against Pyro bosses who's not able to set fire. It can be a good combination with the Degreaser where you use the Shotgun the most and airblast when the boss gets close.

Let's be honest, who uses the shotgun as main dmg dealer when you have a flamethrower as primary?
Or any airblast-shotgun combo knowing that airblast builds rage and the shotgun deals 100ish dmg assuming you get a clear shot, after that you either die or keep airbalsting until you die.

On the other hand flares give you mobility, damage over time, knockback AND better dmg at long range.
There is no comparison.

I understand that can it be annoying to deal with incendiary shotguns with a few handful of hales, but it's not going to be as before since only 3-4 players max will have them in a full server.

You want lots of the changes to make people use a bit more variety than seeing too much the same loadout. I got something to say about that. Even though weapons are balanced to be equal fair, it doesn't mean that it will make a much bigger variety of loadouts. People would still use how they like to play and what thei're favorites are. There would still be lots of Eyelander demoknights, Gunboats soldier, so it won't always be resulted to what the weapon changes are meant to do.

We were not satisfied because weapons were changed too fast so the playstyle was already majorly updated, so rounds could get unfair against the boss. Some of the buffs was making some classes having more ability to get stronger against the boss.

Even though that's what you to change weapons to have more variety of use, it doesn't mean that majority wants it.

No, I want changes so that people have the option to not be entitled to one best loadout. I'm not forcing them. If they rather want to keep playing the same loadout over and over again, that's their choice. I'm doing this mostly for the people who are bored of doing the same thing forever. Surprise, not everyone likes to play Eyelander Demoknight, not everyone likes to play Gunboats Soldier, not everyone likes to play Minigun Heavy all the time. And when they don't want to play said playstyle, they have to handicap themselves, which is unfair. Why can't you understand that?

Rounds we're already pretty unfair to begin with. If you want to make them fair again, look at the hales, not at the weapons, since that is where the majority of everyone's complaints are coming from. As of now, playing hale is one frustrating and stressful task, the main reason why I have it disabled. Fix that first.



Yes, excuse me for being tired of doing the same shit over and over again and I don't think this solely goes for me. Why are you so upset for weapon changes that barely effect your playstyle?

The major problem are not the boss balancing but it's the boss getting nerfed and mercs keeps on getting buffs as the server has been active.

Lots of these changes were mostly buffs and grants an extra ability to a class who were already powerful enough.

Even though from this, a major weapon change that happens before we could start speaking about it.

I'm not sure what bosses have been nerfed, I assume very few considering the amount of noise about underpowered bosses. But from what I can tell, a truck load of bosses have been buffed rather than nerfed. The idea is to make the mercenaries have a fair fight against the boss that they face. And yes, you're going to lose as boss from time to time - just soak it up.

These weapon changes aren't granting any extra abilities for a class. As mentioned countless times, it provides an alternative set of choices to play with or against. An extra ability would be something like giving the spy triple jump without a price for example. And I'm not sure how you would determine the power of a class.

Erm, that's why feedback exists.

So now I'm starting to give up explaining this to you again.

You are starting to ask me unrelated questions to this like why I'm upset for weapon changes that barely effect my playstyle, well we are explaining this because these major changes are not always fair against the boss. The major problem are not the boss balancing but it's the boss getting nerfed and mercs keeps on getting buffs as the server has been active. Even though from this, a major weapon change that happens before we could start speaking about it. Lots of these changes were mostly buffs and grants an extra ability to a class who were already powerful enough.

Yet, I'm not the only one who thinks this way but no matter how people tries to give this simple explanation, you are still trying to defend your own ideas in an agressive way and pushes this topic further to somewhere else.

Don't know what else to say.